I was just reading from a site preaching how that great financial crash is sure to come,...and it is.
Anyway these con-men are trying to bamboozle upper middle class yokels into buying in on their green survival crap. Ya know so they can continue to live bored happy lives while their neighbors are fucking staving to death around them.
The folks in these "Green Haven" outposts will be over-run by hungry desperate armed people from the cities, and 'burbs. If you're going to do this your community needs to be 'heavily' fortified. That, and protected by tough bastards with military experience that don't have a problem with mowing down the mob.
That's cutting down hordes of men women, and children with .30, and .50 cal cross fire.
Don't forget the fragmentation mines liberally spread around your compounds, and pre-sited mortar firing zones further out. 'Course you'll need front loaders not only for farming, but for digging long trenches for the bodies. Ya don't want the dead to poison the water table.
This will be a harsh cruel violent world.
All that green hippy stuff is out the window. It'll be you vs them...there will be no government no National Guard no nothing except you your families your food, and your defenses. That Crash 'is' coming, and this is the sort of world it's going to give us.
As for me I live in NYC...I'm staying. I'm a stone cold New Yorker. I'm staying put! 'Course this means I'm going to either get hanged shot or if I'm lucky quietly starve.